The Hobby Jogger Podcast
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The Hobby Jogger Podcast
E10 | Carlos Del Pino on Hoka, Sexy Pace, and Life Beyond Running
Set your pace with us as we embark on a lively exploration into Hoka's innovative running footwear, guided by the brand's own Dallas-Fort Worth and Oklahoma rep, Carlos Del Pino. Carlos illuminates how Hoka's bold approach to reinvention continually adapts to the evolving demands of runners.
We touch on the concept of 'sexy pace'—a sweet spot in speed that's both injury-resistant and progress-friendly. From his witty dive into meme culture to an artistic side that includes comic book creation and music, @carlostherunner is more than a brand representative; he's an inspiration for everyone to keep up their own 'sexy pace' in all walks (and runs) of life.
on today's episode of the hobby jogger. We have carlos del pino on carlos the runner. On instagram, carlos is a shoe rep for poca shoes. I will be also joined by my co-host, as always, rob myers. Carlos, thanks for being on the show. We appreciate your time, man hey, thank you for inviting me, and he's got the fly human fly shirt on. Always like to see that, nice, and you do work for Hoka, correct? You're a shoe rep.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I am a marketing rep. I do pretty much everything that you can imagine with. When you see a rep Like say, for instance, today I visited several stores. A rep Like say, for instance, today I visited several stores, I instructed people about, you know, gave them some knowledge about shoes, schedule, events, stuff like that.
Speaker 1:Nice and you're located down in Dallas, Texas, correct.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so pretty much my territory here in Dallas, Fort Worth and Oklahoma.
Speaker 1:Oh, that's pretty big. I feel like that's a pretty big territory. It is Nice and in Hoka I'm a trail runner, so Hoka's my go-to trail shoot because I feel like there's not really much that two trail shoe, because I, I feel like there's not really much, that there are some competitors. But you know a little bit above, above the best, and it must keep you busy because they're always there's always a new shoe release I, when I was looking through, uh, yesterday the skyward x now is coming out. Yeah, new shoe, never heard of it. Uh, it I. I texted my buddy at Fleet Feet. He manages a store in Worcester Ohio, fleet Feet about it. He's like oh yeah, it's like a souped-up Mach X Would that be accurate.
Speaker 2:I will say Okay, so that's the thing. I will say it's more. This is a better concept. I believe so, and it's funny that you mentioned that, because today I talked to somebody at a free feed about SkywardX. So it is a show that's coming out on April 25th most likely, and it's the actual, like the official super trainer from Hoka. Like the Mach-X was considered one, but this one has a Arnold Bible plate and, of course, the people phone. But, like I said before, to put it more like in people's minds, so something closer, not just the Mach X, I would say it's the new, upgraded version of the Bondi X. Okay, that makes sense. Yeah, yeah, so it's a premium. I would say it's a better shoe in so many ways. It's just like middle ground from the Clefton and the Bondi, kind of like right in the middle, but a little more squishy than those shoes.
Speaker 1:So it's, it's gonna be a uh fun ride, I would say nice, and it seems that hoka's really honed in on the road scene over the last. I'd say what? What? Eight months Because, yeah, the Rocket. Maybe a year the Rocket X2 came out A very cool shoe. Very cool shoe.
Speaker 2:Yeah, one of my favorites, I would say.
Speaker 1:And that from version one to version two. It's not even nearly the same shoe.
Speaker 2:No, so it's not because, you know, kind of like I'd say, I would say that a lot of the things that happen in token, it's mainly if a shoe has the technology that it's a little obsolete, they will completely rebound the shoe iteration like everything that it had. I mean it was good, but it was a little like you know what the now the uh old running trend was asking for was not in that shoe anymore. So the new one, it's pretty much like everything that's, you know, like what you call a super shoe. That's that's it, that's it and whole super shoe yeah, and, and that was yeah.
Speaker 1:Like you said, it's completely revamped. I know on the trail side it looks like the, the tectonics two to three, will kind of take that same lead from the, the rocket x1 to two, that's. It seems to be on that kind of trajectory. I know it's a shoe that's that's off, but well, a few months away at least, but it seems to be like that's. They do take giant leaps. I know there's other shoe companies where it's. You know, you have the eighth version of a shoe and the ninth version's the same shoe but a slightly different, like gusseted tongue or something. But Hoka seems to really reinvent a shoe when they, when they, I guess, upgrade it, so to speak yeah, that's, yeah, that's actually.
Speaker 2:Yeah, one of the things that I always notice that with other brands you know, like I mean the only brand that I feel that done, kind of like a whole 180 at the moment it's asic and with everything pretty much older line is very different to what it was two years ago. But uh, other than that, like I'll say some another, a good example like brooks is very consistent to everything that they put out, always kind of like minor tweaks here and there but, nothing has really changed.
Speaker 2:I would say poker is always reinventing things, trying to look for new things.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and I know, for me personally, I had the first edition of this and all, and the second edition of this and all now is my favorite trail shoe. Uh, I actually hated the first one. I they were they. They got quickly demoted to grass cutting shoes. Uh, I just didn't like them. You know, say not every shoe is very person and but it's a brand that I trust to do well, okay. So I mean, I went out and bought the second, yeah, second version of the shoe and now it's it's my favorite trail running shoe. So, you know, kudos to you at hoka for you know, yeah, for doing the work you do come on, casey, you're wearing hokas to cut your grass.
Speaker 1:And have some respect, come on I mean I, I don't want to just throw them in the garbage, you know I mean. So I did take the Adidas's that were formerly grass cutting shoes and threw those in the garbage. So there's a chain, there's an evolution of what we go through.
Speaker 1:Do you have a marathon coming up, carlos? Because I looked at your Strava a little bit, it looked like possibly a marathon coming up. Carlos, because I looked at your straw a little bit looked like possibly a marathon could be on the horizon uh, well, actually, well, like this, this weekend I have a half marathon, that's it.
Speaker 2:Like I, um I, the only marathon that I'm thinking about doing or that I'm going to be doing is the Chicago Marathon this year. I've done that four times already. This last time it's going to be for fun, I don't know. Previous years I was going a little crazy with the marathons and ultramarathons. I guess most runners runners at some point they go like want to do everything in one year and I used to do like four marathons and two ultras and like now I'm more like one is one ultra, one marathon and I'm good.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm 40. So don't recover like I used to. You know, three years, good, that's about all I think my body can handle.
Speaker 3:But you know hey.
Speaker 1:I do get a little overzealous sometimes with these guys, with Rob and David, where we'll text each other like hey, did you see Black Canyons? That looks like fun. Next thing I know two of them are signed up. We're in. We don't see you on the ultra. Sign up. What's up, dude? Like I texted you guys 10 minutes ago, come on. So that's how we you know to each other into to, to running these things, but you, you pick your battle pretty much.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I tried yeah, it only takes one person, and then, before you know it, you're running four or five 50ks a year, and then the number goes up again the following year. Yeah, it takes one.
Speaker 2:Well, no, no, like yeah. So I used to be that person that always doing that, but, um, I don't know like he.
Speaker 1:I mean he said he's a year 40, I'm 46, okay so you, you even recover a little bit slower than I do.
Speaker 2:Then exactly yeah it's just trying to be a little conscious about my body, yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's a big thing when you know a week later your hip still hurts and knees tight, like it's just. You don't mentally get over it as quick as you used to, exactly. Yeah, now, what shoe are you going to wear this weekend?
Speaker 2:Okay that. Now what shoe are you going to wear this weekend? Okay, that is actually a dilemma because, going back to the Hoke shoes, like a month ago I did the Caltech Marathon in and that I used the yellow X1 and I like it. That shit is great. It's just a fun, really good shooter, like if you want to go a little faster than your usual. But I do love the Rocket X2. I mean, I love the feeling of it. For me it's a little more like I don't know, I feel a little more confident in the Rocket X2 than the CLX1. So I'm thinking like I might change my mind and maybe Saturday I'll do CLX1, but as of now I'm thinking it's going to be Rocket X2.
Speaker 1:We'll see, and that was the next show I was going to ask you about, the Silio X1. Recently well, we'll see, and that was the next show I was going to ask you about the cilio x. X1 recently came out, another super shoe done by oka. Uh, seemed to have been got great reviews from what I've read. Yeah, I haven't really seen too much negative said about it. It's a brand new line of shoe.
Speaker 2:It's not a I think I think the only the only complaint that I've seen very like, unspokenly, like on people is the laces, like they're a little weird. But I mean that's like a minor thing. I mean for me it didn't really bother me, but yeah, like I've seen a lot of people saying really good things about it, so it's up to a good start, and the good thing with laces is you can always just put your own laces in.
Speaker 1:Right?
Speaker 2:That's what I said it's like you don't like me, it's changed, it's nothing I mean, but I didn't like. I said like it's not because you know I'm moving for my company, but like that didn't happen to me. I mean, I just put them, laid them up, went up for the runs, it's been fine, it's been working just fine.
Speaker 1:Now I know, if you put the Rocket X2ss on, it is not going to be a sexy pace. Oh no, that is not sexy pace, issue that's a crazy thing, yeah yeah, ludicrous mode.
Speaker 1:I, I saw that where you, you know you call it your easy pace, presumably sexy pace, and I got a laugh out of that. Then this, uh, this weekend, when I was running with our our Kim, I kept telling her hey, we got to keep it at sexy pace, kim. You know we got 13 miles to get through here. We're at Carlos's sexy pace. She's like who are you talking about? I was like you'll listen to the show, don't worry, you'll hear it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so well, yeah, so that thing you like it's I will make this in my opinion, it's like that. That's helped me out a lot, like during this whole journey. Because, uh, I don't know about you guys, but in my case there was a time when I was running slow and had no clue of anything or what I was doing. But I was having fun, right, I was fine. I was just excited to go and do races and all that. And then one day I realized, oh, I can go faster, and then faster and then more.
Speaker 2:And then you get a little upset with that, like, oh, I want to be like a super fast person. So people, so people would say, oh, you're doing so great, you're so fast, and you're like meh, it's nothing. Like in your head. You're like your ego is like ah, that's when I wanted, like people to pray for me, like it's like it prays on me, so.
Speaker 2:And then you get injured. And then you get injured and at that point you're not being humble, it's like I'm going to be fine, I'm just going to be in a second wound. And then again you get injured again and then probably by the third time you're like okay, now I have to think about my health and my more of that sexy thing. So I think that's one of the main things that made me think, oh, yeah, let's promote that, because at least I don't know six out of ten runners that I know at some point they're always like that, like injured. If you're like super fast all the time, yeah, you're always injured. You're super fast all the time, yeah, you're injured, most likely that's one reason I stick to the trails a lot.
Speaker 1:It's tough for me to run fast up a hill or run up a hill, so it's kind of like an automatic slowdown, the auto slowdown. But I do agree with you Like the sexy pace. Almost every day that's what I'm at. I'm at the sexy pace, you know. I'm out there, just, you know, chugging along, listening to my podcast, listening to some music. I'm in no hurry. Where am I? You know if I get six miles in great, if it's seven, is that really much different for me. You know I'm not.
Speaker 3:I'm not trying to win anything I say if you're hurting sitting on the couch, you're not running. So you got to figure it out. I mean, to your point, I know runners that are always hurt and really if you add up the number of days they actually get to run, it's maybe half a year. So yeah, you got to fix that right away exactly yeah and uh.
Speaker 2:Well, and then you're saying you're listening to podcasts. I usually listen to music a lot like I'm not if I'm by myself. If'm not by myself, I'm with friends all the time. I usually, out of every week, out of my five runs a week, I'll probably be with four days of that with friends, and if not, I'm fine, I like running by myself. That's how it is like. I enjoy running with friends and talking all the time and uh.
Speaker 2:So, carlos, tell me about the run project run project yeah, runprojectorg, I see your, your face on the home page, smiling uh, yeah, well, that, um, I'm an ambassador of, uh of them, um, it's kind of funny because I I don't even remember how long ago maybe four or five years ago uh, the person in charge asked me to become an ambassador, but it was unofficial, it was just she will just give me entries and I will go and bring friends and stuff like that.
Speaker 2:And then I think a year passed and they, they started the, the actual ambassador problem and I guess I would like to test for it and and then they, they had a lot of people. I I think right now they have like 30 ambassadors from going there and and the problem now, like, kind of funny now, because I used to go into all the races, uh, like I said, bringing friends in and have a good time. And this year this job is kind of like I can't be doing every all the things that I have to pick. For instance, next month there's a race from Run Project and I'm not going to be able to do it because I'm going to be working for Alcatraz. Still, I'm going to try to be on future races if I can.
Speaker 3:It looks like they have a lot of cool races to pick from the calendar's jam-packed Exactly future races, if I can. It looks like they have a lot of cool races to pick from. I mean the the calendar's jam-packed exactly.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's a really uh like a cool, uh company good idea and locally it's just nice. So I like it, I. So I that's why I stuck with them, because you know I I mean I could have said, well, it was nice one year, two years, but I think I mean, as long as I can support them, it's all good, I'm fine my work always gets in the way around.
Speaker 3:I travel for a living, so completely understand good, you definitely stay busy.
Speaker 1:Marlos, here you know I I see the work you do on the memes. Everyone likes memes, right? Everyone? Yeah, I mean there's no downside to memes. What got your meme career kicked off your memes? What do we call them? Memesmiths, I guess Is that a term that the kids use? I don't know it should be, I think.
Speaker 2:I don't know. I don't know what it was, but I feel like mainly it was so when I first started on Instagram a little before that I was mostly Facebook and I don't know how like my, I think my wife told me and I was like nine years ago or so she was like you need to get an Instagram because that's, you know, a cool place to be, and I didn't have one. So that's when I started, but I mainly over there. I mean, at the beginning I was doing a lot of pictures with dinosaurs and zombies and stuff like that, shaking them, and I loved doing that, right, so that kind of grew.
Speaker 2:And then I was like my other option was like, because I'm kind of like a creative person by nature, like I see other people doing memes and I can perfectly probably repost that, but no, I kind of like I want my own thing. So that's why I started doing it on my own, like this is why, like, I don't I don't want to just post somebody else's idea. Like I want to tap on my own point of view on things. So that's why I started. Well, I want to tap on my own point of view on things, so that's why I started.
Speaker 1:Well. I certainly appreciate the memes. I enjoy the videos with the hair flowing as well. You got a nice. You know I got long hair as well. Oh yeah yeah, you got some locks. That's good. I always like runners with some flow. It usually means there's a little bit more personality, I think.
Speaker 2:But you're not, but I don't know how it is with you. In my case, at the beginning, when I was starting, I started running oh yeah, just pull up my hair. I just felt it wasn't right, like I was just kind of like uncomfortable and I just let it like this the whole time, and that's how I've been running for this past 12 years. And I remember there was a race that I went to. When I finished it was a half, like literally finished walking getting the medal on this lady came and papped on my shoulder, like hey, I just wanted to tell you that, um, I have a something for your hair if you want to pull it off. Like no, thank you, I'm good. No, it's just, you know, like I was chasing you the whole time and I I just seeing your hair like moving around just got me very anxious. Like what do you want me to do? That gets my hair. But yeah, that got me pretty fast. I was like well, thank you.
Speaker 1:Bye, I got to go. If my hair is making you anxious it's not good yeah. I mean the hair down got to let the flow flow, right, I usually I will go head uh to keep it back, so out of my face, rob. I realize, rob, you have no interest in this conversation that we're having right now, but hey, I have a headband.
Speaker 3:I wear it sometimes. It's good look.
Speaker 1:You know, it's functional, looks good when you retire, you can grow your hair out. Used to be long years ago.
Speaker 3:Really, oh yeah, almost to my waist when I was younger. Wow, so, carlos, tell me about uh, carlos and sushi, the comic. I was trying to find more information on it. I found the found the Facebook page and it looked like it hadn't been updated in a while, and the illustrations are so cool.
Speaker 2:Oh, thank you. So I used to do that before. It's so long ago. So I used to work. That's one thing that you guys need to know. That I used to work in TV. I worked for almost 15 years, something like that, 15 years. So in tv I work at a master control it's a master control creator. So I was there like this sitting all day and that's why I used to do that all the time, and then I think, I switched to another place and then the running started and I just kind of like stopped. I didn't make time. I mean it's sad to say I didn't have time, like you're so big, but I stopped doing it it and now it's like I mean I forgot about that, but yeah, it was like my wife loved it and she even has one of the like the good sheep penguin on her quite soon on her hockey.
Speaker 3:So, uh, yeah, I mean it was fun, it was nice, yeah is there a print out there the comic, or does it only live online?
Speaker 2:online only now. There was a paper like a local paper. Used to print it for a little bit, for I want to say six months or so, and that was pretty much it very cool.
Speaker 3:You should bring it back for one more round, right, yeah?
Speaker 1:hey you're. You're a man of many talents, carlos, you're also a ukulele player. Uh yeah, found uh pretty impressive. I don't I. I I know um over the rainbow was a great ukulele song yeah I I forget the gentleman's name. He's passed since great song, but not often I see someone that could play a ukulele. Actually, would be the first person that I've ever known. No way, yeah, yeah. So now we've had an author and a ukulele player on the show, rob, so we're crossing a lot of things off of my newfound list.
Speaker 2:So that one. Actually, my wife gave it to me as a gift because I play the guitar, so she was like, in addition to it, and I mean it came, you know, pretty easy. So that's why Three months.
Speaker 1:Do you play it often?
Speaker 2:that's another thing. I haven't done it in a while, I gotta say like. And another thing that you guys need to know, like I guess another thing that kept me real busy, like I had at one point like three jobs. So yeah, I was jobs, job, job, running, and so it was. I had a lot on my plate and I think now I have more time, now that I'm an old copper, it's like I have like. We'll see, I'll probably go back to it.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's like riding a bike. I mean, that's one thing we have in common. I, I play guitar, what about?
Speaker 2:the guitar. Do you still play?
Speaker 3:I do, I do still play.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so I do have a little expert and I haven't played in a long time. Yeah, that's another thing. Maybe time there was a time, like something very special about speaking of the guitar that I did Like in what was it? Oh, like 15 years ago. I'm a very big fan of Weezer, so I played with them live Because they had, like this tour, that they were auditioning fans and I played two songs with them at the end, so that was pretty cool.
Speaker 1:That's awesome. Yeah, where was he? They were here a couple of years ago and he stopped by right down the street from me it's I forget the name of the place Stan Hewitt Hall. It's like this older Rob knows what I'm talking about. They did like they had a play night or something there and he went. He just showed up there for their little play night and seems like a super cool dude. I mean, I'm a big fan. What are we on the 30th anniversary of the Blue Album?
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:Yeah, is that right.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so that they're they're doing a tour. I got tickets for that already yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we'll be. We'll for sure be there. She's a big rivers fan, so we got that death cab for cutie lined up postal service. Wow, cool, I think. Green Day. That was a hell of a year in music 1994. It was all those, because that was Dookie. The Blue Album Nirvana Nevermind came out in 94?.
Speaker 3:I thought it was 93. Bleach came out in 89.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm spitballing here, guys, so it's not like I'm. You know I'm not a music buff, so no one, please, no one email me. It was in 92. Yeah, it was in the 90s, I was. I was very dumb so I don't remember things exactly as they were. But yeah, great hearing music and so awesome you got to go on stage with rivers, that's hey, oh also the sound garden, super, super unknown 1994.
Speaker 2:Wow, super unknown. Yeah, rest in 1994.
Speaker 1:Wow, super unnamed. Yeah, rest in peace, chris O'Neill.
Speaker 2:The Beastie Boys, real Communication, wow and Blooper Park Life. Oh, and you're writing an MTV, unplugged 1994.
Speaker 1:Oh, the man who Filled the World great song.
Speaker 2:That's a lot of good albums, man. Wow, that's from REM Munster. Wow, yeah, we can. Oh, that, that's from REM Munster. Wow, yeah, we can. Yeah, oh, that's great, that's great music.
Speaker 1:What's your go-to songs on a mix for running Carlos, do you like the softer stuff or you go right into the hard stuff?
Speaker 2:So this is kind of like a very complex because I kind of like especially wasn't yesterday. Yeah, yesterday I went on a run like a social run and that was that was with one of my best friends and she remembers that, like I had an old playlist, I started playing it. The music, the music it has evolved. I feel I used to do a lot of rock, hair metal, classic stuff, like music from my time, and now I do a lot of how do you call it like combien and stuff like a little more like with a beat, like, say, like pitbull and stuff like that, and then I was the person that 10 years ago would have said, no, I don't think I'm listening to that. But now I mean, every time we go over, that's music and it helps, kind of like with the vibe and everything. So that's music and it helps with the vibe and everything.
Speaker 2:So that's pretty much that what I do. That's why it's kind of complicated. It's funny because now that play is the new one with all the beats and cumbia and reggaeton and all that. People ask me constantly like, hey, can we play this? And they post me constantly like, hey, send me your playlist. And they post about it like hey, thank you to Carl the Runner because he had his curated playlist and I ran with it. It was so great. So that's what I'm living with when I'm running now.
Speaker 1:That's awesome. Yeah, it's funny how running will make you discover new music. I uh, like we talked about the nineties music that I listened to and still listen to, but then I found a DJ uh, timmy Trumpet, this Australian DJ. He plays EDM shows and something you would never think that I would be into like EDM music. So I started listening to him in the house and the girlfriend, she, started to like them and we were looking at trips to Vegas and he's playing this club in Las Vegas and I was like man, I don't know if that's our scene to see Timmy trumpet in a club like we looked it up, he goes on stage at like 3am. And I was, like we looked it up, he goes on stage at like 3 am. Oh man, we'll catch him at a music festival someday.
Speaker 1:I don't think that's our scene, but yeah, it's funny how running brings you into new things and you get exposed to different things, especially music-wise. That's one thing that Rob and I have kicked around having on here just like a producer or something to come on and talk about music. And you know, I'm I'm not I'm hardly a professor of rock, but you know, I have a wide range of music, music that I definitely listen to, and it's a big, big part of running, especially when you have to go out and run miles by yourself. So so, yeah, it's cool to have another music head on and talk some music, huh, rob.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, I mean, your taste changed so much. At least for me. When I'm running, it really depends on you know my mood, what time of year, weather race. So, carlos, to pull it back to another running topic, seems like you're really into yoga and personally I struggle with yoga because I know it's good for me. For whatever reason, I just can't get into it. I like strength training, strength training, obviously, I like the running. There's a few other things in the gym that I enjoy, but I just haven't been able to get into yoga Any advice there.
Speaker 2:Let me tell you why I got into yoga. Maybe that is what changed your mindset. You'll be like, okay, there's something there. So a year, a little over a year ago, I did an ultra, just for fun. We used to do it here in Dallas, where there's a group that do, um, a a little bit of a run. It's not a race officially, all right, but we call it from dallas to caltown and from from caltown to dallas, so I'd be on the on the new year's uh, eve, new Year's Eve, we run from Dallas to Fort Worth, 34 miles, the big group. It's fun, you know, sexy pace.
Speaker 2:The last time I did it was not this past New Year's, the one before that, and the problem was that a guy that came was a new guy and he started limping, so I didn't want to leave him alone. So I did a lot of like very super sexy things and walking and I feel like that kind of like affected my hip and a week later the pain wasn't going Like, it was just there, like just a nagging pain. And then my wife said you know what? You should probably go to the doctor. You're not 20 something anymore, you're like 40 something. So, uh, I went to the cairo and they definitely said, yeah, and you're like, you know all the stuff, you know like with like therapy. I did like three months like like therapy. I did like three months like of internship therapy at the hospital and I was I'm not gonna lie like the first week or so I was like crying, like we were crying, it was so bad. And they told me that that's one of that. Here's the part, like the relevant part. They said, yeah, you, the problem with you is that you and it's kind of embarrassing but they said you probably didn't do a lot of stretching during your running days, so it wouldn't hurt, it will be very beneficial if you do yoga. And if you don't want to do the stretching, like, I mean, keep doing, I try to do it every time. But, yeah, definitely do yoga, like be very, uh, like doing as much as you can. So that's what I did. I started doing and, uh, I at least I do two or three times a week and I don't know, like today, today I did it Like the day that I'm not running, I'm going to try to do that and strength train, so kind of like balancing things out. So I mean, now I go once a month to the Cairo as a prevention. That's how I do things now. One day a month, cairo, running on the regular strength training two times a week and yoga, same thing two or three times a week.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I definitely need to do it. It takes me anywhere from four to six miles for my legs to warm up these days, anything two or three times a week yeah, I definitely need to do it. It takes me anywhere from four to six miles for my legs to warm up. These days, they're just so tight. My wife hears me complaining about it when we go for a run, so I think I'm going to have to cave in and actually go to yoga with her. Maybe it'll only take a couple miles to loosen everything up.
Speaker 1:But yeah, tight calves, hips, everything do you have any, maybe like youtubers that you recommend their yoga?
Speaker 2:for carlos actually, yeah, but uh. So I I do yoga gym, like you know, in class, but I also, when I'm not doing it there, I do with this YouTuber. Her name is Adrian, yoga with Adrian. So, yeah, I love her own videos. It's pretty good. Like it will recommend you stuff for like whenever you feel like not doing anything. Whenever you feel like not doing anything, yoga when, whenever you feel like uh or or. I think what uh drove me to her video was she had one that was for hips and lower back and I do that video sometimes when I feel a little bit of that. You know, I, I mean, I can still, I admit I used to wear it?
Speaker 1:Does she have a video for someone who can't even get their hands halfway down their shins?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I have all kinds of videos like for beginners, for people that never done yoga.
Speaker 2:You also are the treadmill king, oh yeah, which, I guess in Dallas in the summer, summer it's probably tough to run outside well, so the thing, okay, so the story behind that, and so you know, like, when you say like, you don't know, like immediately you think, why would this guy do this? Like um, first, you know, per contact, when I first started running like this, like consistently, I was the first place with the treadmill. So I remember I did like 10 minutes or so and it's like, oh, this feels pretty good. Maybe I should do 20 minutes and I was going by time and one day, if I do 30 minutes, I'm going to go out and run like for real, like I mean, it's the same thing, right, I'm running.
Speaker 2:But I was in my head, I was thinking people was gonna make fun of me or something because I was outside running. You know, quote unquote so, uh, that was like the best, uh, like I don't know, like my go-to, uh at the beginning. And then I did the. I tried to do chicago marathon, my first one and most of my long ones. I started, I don't know, like you said, like it was a summer.
Speaker 2:I was like I'm just gonna go and do it at the gym and yeah, and yeah, 18 miles, 20 miles. And then, yeah, I just like, at one point my wife said maybe we need to buy a treadmill instead of going to the gym. And then we did and my treadmill lasted me for like six, seven years and I was just running there. It's like, you know, like long distance. The last long distance that I did was, uh, last when was it Last year, In November, I think? I did, um, yeah, 50 days On a treadmill, yes, Wow, yeah, that's impressive.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but I like it, I mean I have fun, it's just I like it. I mean I have fun, it's just I like it, I like doing it and I don't know. I mean, when people like because I know like some people is like a real struggle like I feel like that that actually uh helped me and prepared me I feel for like other kind of long distances, because I've done two 50 milers and I feel like a big part of that was, you know, the mental challenge of the treadmill. Like once I went to do the 50 miles I was like this is so fun, I'm having fun, it's just, you know, exciting and all that. So I think that played a big part.
Speaker 1:You're definitely right, after, I'd say, mile 31,. It becomes a grind out there. That's what you're doing, you're grinding. It's mentally more tiring than it is physical. You have to keep putting the next foot forward. Yeah, you're doing, you're grinding, it's meant it's mentally more, you know, tiring than it is physical and you just you have to keep putting the next foot forward. And yeah, you're right, it probably did sharpen you up quite a bit mentally when you know going that far on a treadmill where you know, at least when I'm out on a trail and I'm over 30 miles there's something to look at and kind of keep your mind off it.
Speaker 1:But yeah I could, I could definitely see where that would be, a big, big mental uh sharpener, so to speak.
Speaker 2:And I have to add I I don't watch shows or movies, or I just listen to me. It's a treadmill. I don't. I don't like that. I don't like watching stuff, like I feel like it's like there's how do you call it Like numbing the pain, kind of like to avoid what you're doing.
Speaker 3:I respect that.
Speaker 1:Very cool, Very cool. And you know, thanks for breaking down some Hoka shoes. Appreciate that, Remember. Recommend this in all two. I think it's their best trail shoe. Now I do put it above the Speedgoat and the Tectonic.
Speaker 2:I thought you were going to say the Speedgoat.
Speaker 1:No, no, the Zinal 2, because it has the collar. You know, the old Adidas Predators had the collar and they went with the collar now, which I really like, but I guess some people don't like it. Whatever I like it, leave me alone, please. But, yes, certainly appreciate that and I am going to start trying to get some yoga going. How about you, rob?
Speaker 3:Yep, I am, I am, I'm convinced.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I've heard too much good about it and never anything negative. So you know I need to. You know, start taking care of my body, put miles on it. So yeah, thank you so much for your time, carlos. We here at the Hobby Jogger greatly appreciate it. And keep running that sexy pace.
Speaker 3:I will Thank you so.
Speaker 2:Carlos, could you tell our listeners how they can get in touch with you? Get in touch with me? All they got to do is go to Instagram or TikTok, or even Strava, and find Carlos the Runner. There's only one, carlos the Runner, and that's it.